This conversation is based around a co-worker of her's who, through his actions and individual presentation, rubs the students and fellow workers the wrong way. Some of the best and most productive racial conversations happen between two different ethnicities, in this case- Mexican vs. Mexican-Irish (I look very white, so by societal standards- I AM more white). Names have been changed for confidentiality purposes...and pardon the french.
ok... whats wrong with him
Leila: He's just sooo degrading
and corny!
3:09 PM and i dont mind corny people...when they own that they are corny...but he thinks he's sooo cool with them
and slips into slang when talking to them
its unbelievable
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3:19 PM me: well
hes white
at least hes tryin
question
Leila: ughh
me: did you ever think i was corny?
3:20 PM cuz you know im half white
and you saw me around the kids
Leila: no
me: and you said i was cool
but was that a lie?
Leila: you were yourself with them
thats what i dont get...why people think they have to be someone else arounds kids of color
3:21 PM me: because they think that's the only way they're gonna get the kids respect
by acting not white
Leila: but see, what does acting white mean?
3:22 PM me: i mean shit..its gotta be a fact. it takes longer for kids to warm up to white staff then it does for any staff of color
shits all relative
should it be like that?
no
but thats what some white people fear when they work with kids
Leila: right....then be aware of that
3:23 PM be aware of how a student might see you differently
and like you said...gain their respect
dont disrespect them even more by talking down to themme: well talking down to them is an entirely different converstaion
me: when its your job, its kinda hard to admit that its gonna take longer for you just cuz ur white
Leila: then you are just reinforcing what kids already think about white people
Leila: no its not hard...you face it
you go in knowing its gonna take you longer
3:24 PM and you are probably gonna have to work harder
and thats it
its like oh for once things arent handed to you...and you have to work for them
im not talking to you directly btw
just generalizing
3:25 PM me: i know
its...
no its not like that
you have to work for something, its not handed to you
from experience, kids ive worked with have made fun of staff not for tryin to act differently, but for acting white
3:26 PM and they have little to no respect for them
"white people be tellin"
Leila: b/c staff dont have respect for them
me: sayin shit like that
Leila: ok so deal
me: im not sayin its the kids fault
Leila: deal that these kids all their life have been given these messages
me: its not that easy
3:27 PM Leila: and yes themselves have been given stereotpyes of white people
its a cycle i get that
but ive also seen a lot of ugly behavior coming from staff (white staff)
its unexcusable
youre the adult
they are the kid
3:28 PM you have dealt with identity and at this point should know your privilege and work towards navigating this system if this is the kind of work you want to be in
not then play victim to a kids behaivor
i dont know
me: so say something to him
if you see this from him
Leila: im not his supervisor
3:29 PM thats not my place
me: but its your concern as a co worker
and yea, its ur place to voice your concerns
with people you have to work with and more so, people the kids work with directly
thats ur place
3:30 PM no?
3:31 PM Leila: yea
we have already received feedback from students about him
and how he puts too mch pressure on them and is mean
Leila: we have relayed that to his supervisor
me: isnt this a non profit?
Leila: yea and?
me: focused around kids?
3:32 PM it shouldnt be about who is who's supervisor
have a fuckin meeting!
Leila: this is still a professional job
me: yea i get that
be professional about itme: dont use the work fuck
Leila: while we are a team i cant just say i want to have a meeting about his behavior
me: why not?
3:33 PM if it affects the kids
those are all of ya'lls clients
Leila: right
me: thats who youre working for
Leila: i get that
me: technically ur supervisors..
Leila: youre preaching to the choir
me: lol
i know
so if they dont like it, figure it out...as a team
Leila: we're trying
me: ya know obama is just as white as i am
Leila: yea
me: i find that fascinating
cuz by no means would he be labeled white
but i would totally be
Leila: funny how race plays into it...its about how you look
race is socially constructed based on color
thats it
3:38 PM me: fucking stupid
i hate that game
good luck with him
We need white youth workers in the urban community just like we need people of color in the corporate world. Both individuals are gonna face challenges. However I have a huge problem with the white individual being painted as a "savior" for doing that type of work. When a person of color is typically labeled a "sell out" for working in the corporate world. But a white youth worker can have a lot more ramifications working with urban youth than that one lone person of color amongst white CEOs. Power...thats what it comes down to. Institutionally white communities have power that then affect those urban youth.
ReplyDeletePoint is....I agree with Leila. Deal with it. yes it might take more work to gain the respect of urban youth but maybe one should attempt to understand the complex systems that effect them everyday...and dont come at them with sympathy either...come at them with respect.
And this is all assuming that people of color in the youth development world have an "easier" time connecting with urban youth...this isnt always the case either. We're people...not colors